Episode 32 – Sorting Out The Civil War in Publishing

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Alan talks about his Movember fund-raising effort - http://mobro.co/AlanBaxter

Alan talks about the “sagging middle” and the always difficult midway point of writing a novel.

Dave talks about his new Dane Maddock “short” story.

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We then go on to refer back to past week’s podcast about pissing people off and this week we talk about the subject itself that was raised – the evangelists for self-publishing versus the evangelists for the traditional route.

Dave and Alan agree that we’ve got sick and tired of hearing from all the evangelists who try to convince everyone that there’s only one way to succeed.

We discuss the differences in traditional contracts and what to look out for. “Gotcha clauses”.

We discuss the pros and cons of agents and agent motivation.

We cover the question of whether publishers and bookstores are dying out.

Thrillercast Episode 31 – Ticking People Off

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We talk about our current writing projects.

Dave talks about all the Gryphonwood books that have had audio rights sold. Dave’s latest one, Quest, is available as an audiobook here: http://www.audible.com/pd/ref=sr_1_2?asin=B0062CWYJU&qid=1320766920&sr=1-2

Dave then talks about stupid author tricks, such as joining an online forum and pretending to be a member purely to promote the author’s own books.

We talk about manners and politeness when it comes to being an author. Alan compares newbie authors to newbie martial artists.

We then talk about the recent controversy surrounding Michael Stackpole and his articles comparing in-house authors to slaves:

Stackpole's articles:

http://www.michaelastackpole.com/?p=2510
http://www.michaelastackpole.com/?p=2887

We discuss what Stackpole was trying to say with regards to paying attention to publishing contracts, and the danger of using such emotional language when it can obscure your point.

However, in talking about one part of the language, we don’t really address in great detail what Stackpole was saying. Dave and Alan don't necessarily agree with everything Mr. Stackpole says. The topic continues to garner attention, including this recent rebuttal by Tobias Buckell:

http://www.tobiasbuckell.com/2011/11/08/self-publishing-doesnt-mean-you-have-to-be-a-raging-fuck-wad/

We then go on to talk about the furore Alan generated with his post denigrating NaNoWriMo.

Alan’s post is here: http://www.alanbaxteronline.com/2011/11/01/nanowrimo.html

Dave’s less controversial blog post on NaNoWriMo is here: http://davidwoodonline.blogspot.com/2011/10/morning-wood-nanowrimo-whats-use.html

We chat about all the pros and cons of NaNo, as we see them.

What to do when you find yourself in the midst of a controversy.

Thrillercast Episode 30 – Writing and Rewriting History

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Alan talks about the new multi-media webinar of his How To Write Realistic Fight Scenes Masterclass. All the details here: http://www.alanbaxteronline.com/write-fight-scenes-masterclass

Alan talks about his current job of writing a video game narrative.

Alan talks about the new anthology, Hope, featuring his fantasy short story, Duty & Sacrifice. All profits from Hope will go to charities which help to raise suicide awareness. Get it here: http://www.kayellepress.com/books/anthologies/hope-speculative-fiction-to-help-raise-suicide-awareness/purchase-options-for-hope-anthology/

We talk about the new methods publishers are trying to avoid complaints about poorly reported sales figures for their creators.

Dave talks about the audiobook version Quest – it’s recorded and ready for a pre-Christmas release.

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We go on to talk about the nature of using history in our novels and how we approach cultural and historical events and use them.

We discuss the challenge of internal consistency in our novels and the amount of research involved, to ensure we approach our rewritten histories and mythologies from an informed point of view.

We touch briefly on cultural appropriation – is everything fair game?

We discuss the human psychology of religion and mythology, and culture, and how that needs to apply even in a completely fantasy world.

David discusses the cultural failings of some fantasy epics where history/culture is over-simplified.

Alan takes the same point to the failings of many sci-fi stories to correctly address cultural variation.

There are several versions of the US map David mentions. Here are just a few:

This is the one Dave mentioned: http://dalewrites.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/how-america-sees-the-world.jpg

Here are a few others:

http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/80033_americasview.jpg

http://www.viceland.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/1.jpg

And Alan's favourite: http://www.irintech.com/x1/images/jean/US_World.jpg

We go on to discuss the importance of taking time out from writing to have a think. Thinking is an integral part of writing and we discuss the various methods we use to step away from the writing and let our brains chew on the details.

We talk about how we organise our research in order to draw from it for the novel in progress.

The importance of doing lots of research even if you don’t actually use it all in the finished story, as it will inform what you do include.

We talk about how the research for one project can be an investment in your writing career, as it can only help broaden the writer’s knowledge in general.

We then discuss the nature of readers recognising lazy research in our work. The more successful we get, the more we’re likely to sell from our backlist and the more critically we’ll be reviewed. Our early work may not be as good as later work from a craft point of view, but our research and integrity needs to be clear from the beginning.

Here’s Sean Ellis’s new book, Magic Mirror, out now from Gryphonwood Press - http://www.amazon.com/Magic-Mirror-ebook/dp/B005UHIIH0/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&m=A24IB90LPZJ0BS

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Episode 29 - Catfights, Causes and Controversies

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ThrillerCast is one year old!

Alan was recently a guest at ConFlux.

David is looking forward to the release of the Quest audiobook.

The strange and cool experience of hearing your characters interpreted by a voice actor.

Writing Fight Scenes Online Master Class- Alan will be leading this class along with Joanna Penn, author of Pentecost and host of The Creative Penn. A few spaces remain. Thursday Oct 20, 2011 4:00 PM – 5:30 PM EDT (9pm GMT). A recording with slides will be available if you can't make the live session.

Registration link:
http://www.alanbaxteronline.com/write-fight-scenes-masterclass

This is the one year anniversary of ThrillerCast! What has changed in publishing in the last year?

Industry growing pains.

Negative reactions to Amazon's publishing imprint. Conflicts over excluse digital rights. Are booksellers making the right decision by refusing to carry print versions of books on which Kindle holds exclusive rights?

Disparate viewpoints on how authors should approach this tumultuous world. Then and now- watchdog organizations and where to get advice.

The Write Agenda
-What exactly is their agenda? We don't quite get it.
-Who are they angry with and why? What did Writer Beware and random SFWA officers ever do to them? We find them confusing.
-Why don't the individuals in the group identify themselves? (Or are we just missing it on their website?)
-Why does their highlighted bestseller list seem to be almost exclusively authors from pay-to-publish businesses? Perhaps there's nothing to it, but it gives a negative impression.
-Perhaps their cause is a good one, but we're having a hard time 'getting it.'

Our advice
- If you don't want to go the traditional publishing route, you are better off avoiding pay-to-publish companies. You can hire people to do the things you can't, and you'll be better off in the long run.
-Connect with the indie community for mutual support and guidance.
-Whether it's a cause like The Write Agenda or an advice site like Writer Beware, always weigh the value of what their saying, then make your own educated decision.

Episode 28 - Setting the Hook with David Sakmyster and R.P. Steeves

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This week, Alan and David discuss how to keep a reader interested from the start.

Updates:
Alan is headed to Conflux and is working on writing for a gaming project.

David was interviewed on AllPulp.


Why do some books grab you from the start and others don't?

Start the story "as close to end as possible."

The importance of a strong "hook" in the age of the e-reader.

Purchasing based on samples.

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Guests- David Sakymster and R.P. Steeves

The importance of setting in an engaging thriller.

How do our guests approach "hooking" the reader?

Prologues in thrillers.

Character development and secondary characters.

David's forthcoming screenplay project with David Golemon.


Visit our guests on the web:

David Sakmyster

R.P. Steeves


And don't forget our weekly

awesome and sometimes inappropriate outtakes after the closing credits!

Episode 27 – Branching out as a writer with David L Golemon

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Show notes

David and Alan talk about their writing life and where they’re at right now.

David mentions the release of Callsign Queen. http://www.amazon.com/Callsign-Queen-Zelda-Novella-ebook/dp/B005MLJ6G6

David talks about his lack of focus in writing direction – the problem of having too many genres and idea directions in his head. David wonders if he has writer's ADD, and is it a problem to work on several projects at once.

Alan talks about how he works on many projects, but usually one at a time.

The importance of re-reading work when you’ve had a break from it.

Mur Lafferty’s “I Should Be Writing” podcast promo. www.ishouldbewriting.com

Then we chat with thriller and multi-genre author, N Y Times bestseller, David Lynn Golemon.

David Golemon talks about the Event Group books and their inspiration.

The latest book is Legacy - http://www.amazon.com/Legacy-Event-Group-Thriller-Thrillers/dp/0312580797/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1316222595&sr=1-1

We talk about multiple characters in stories.

We talk about the importance of realism in characters and the need to kill main characters sometimes to ensure readers are always engaged and under suspense. Otherwise it’s just Red Shirt syndrome. “Real life is death sometimes.”

We talk about the personal impact on the writer of these character deaths.

David talks about how his and his family’s military background has influenced his writing.

We go on to discuss David’s new book, The Supernaturals - http://www.sevenrealmspublishing.com/products.php?product=The-Supernaturals . David talks about why he wrote a ghost story.

David talks about his move to Seven Realms to publish The Supernaturals and his position on small press.

This leads David to talk about how publishing is changing and the nature of mainstream press compared to small press, and the state of the book.

David also mentions the possibility of starting a new pulp magazine for horror and adventure stories, including graphic stories with great artwork. You heard it here first!

What scares David Golemon?

David Golemon – pantser or planner?

David talks about the great American historical novel he really wants to write.

Find David at www.eventgroupfiles.com

And yes, throughout the interview there’s the repeated sound of a dog. We have no idea why...

Episode 26 – From Stage to Novel – the A J Hartley interview

An unusually long ThrillerCast this week, but well worth the extra time.

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Dave and Alan share some great news with regard to both their novel series’.

We get a nice bit of listener feedback that Dave shares.

Then Dave talks about some Stupid Author Antics.

Dave plugs a few new releases that are due soon which are well worth all thriller and genre fans paying attention to.

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The A.J. Hartley interview:

Thriller adaptation of Shakespeare's Macbeth - http://www.ajhartley.net/Macbeth.htm

How the novel came to be, and the differences from the original.

Play vs Novel

Writing battle scenes

The challenges of adapting Shakespeare to the modern thriller and reader response.

Perceptions and misconceptions about Shakespeare.

AJ's thriller novels.

The "Shakespeare Conspiracy"

AJ's fantasy novels and forthcoming middle grades book.

Common threads that cut across genres.

Genre restraints in adult literature that are absent from children's and young adult literature.

An Englishman's obsession with the American pastime

Magical Words www.magicalwords.net

AJ Hartley's website www.ajhartley.net 

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